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Konig Des Todes · Sep 26, 2011, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by Sentient

Is the background lore for mad king thorn on guild wiki official or speculation?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mad_King

Official. I made it myself, referring to all the halloween quests and dialogue from the collectors and other NPCs; though I prefer the original version of what I made.

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Originally Posted by bonjela

@Konig: I've finally had time to critique your story. ^^

Thoughts on overall plot (spoilers):

Thoughts on chapter 2:

I haven't looked at the edit suggestions themselves but I got comments on these two:

The plot summary I posted was originally written as a rough draft outline of the story that was meant for my eyes only, so naturally there will be some vague parts because I knew what would happen - I didn't bother altering it as I felt it gave "enough" for it to be helpful while still allowing some surprises (e.g., why Palawa Joko uses Thorn). Chapters 4 and 5 are blank because at the time I just didn't write them in - why? I knew what would happen then, but not how. It's basically a time period in which Thorn shows up and begins to attempt to woe the princess; meanwhile Konig investigates the royal family and I need to present both brothers as suspecting individuals (more so the younger - plot twist!). Same goes with the cause of the Scarab Plague - it will be mentioned, but I didn't bother putting it in the outline because as said I wrote it for myself not others.

Chapter 2 didn't do everything I originally planned because the outline is merely a rough draft - when I get to actually writing the story, sections become either longer or shorter than what I originally intended and thus I shift things around. This happened to chapter 2 in which it became longer than I suspected. I am weary of merging the first portion directly into chapter 1 because of length. Looking at chapter 2 again, I could easily add another smaller section.

Chapter 1 only introduces characters because I wrote it a while ago, and at that time I only knew the general plot (Joko, Thorn, and the Scarab Plague) and the characters. I hadn't known yet how to takeKonig arriving in the city and being bugged by a peasant-looking boy who was really a royal prince and connect it to attempting to prevent the Scarab Plague. Now I do.

Regarding chapter 1 and 2 on a whole though, I believe I will have to rewrite it - or at least portions of it - because it appear I was misremembering/completely mistaken/forgetting aspects of Fahranur in the game. For instance, they aren't pyramids like in other places in Istan, but trapazoids; and where I thought there were ruble in the southern portion, the ruble is more in the northern portion; likewise, there are no towers anywhere (that I completely made up and intended to explain it without words via aging and crumbling of stone). Just a few things I was mistaken on.

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Originally Posted by bonjela

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“I am a guy, so I am a ‘him,’ but I don’t see how that is of any importance.” The two have passed several bazaars selling things from fish and grain to pieces of cheap jewelry and clothing; faces turned toward and away almost instantly as the two passed by. Neither were loud.

Bolded: Comma should go outside the quotes.

I have always learned and grew up being told that commas, periods, and so forth belong within quotation marks (be they one or two dashes), and never outside... which I agree upon as when they are outside, it just looks plain wrong. So I simply ask: are you sure?

@ the underlined there

@DBAA: See attachment.

Minami · Sep 26, 2011, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Good to see so many of you!! ^_^

Speshul HIIIII to Trishie!!!!

Can't wait to see your awesomely cute super duper drawing if you enter :x

Huh I see GW upped the prizes, and WOW a short deadline! Makes me wanna enter... They brought back the costume category as well.

Awesome jobs so far everyone! Keep the arts flowing! ^_^

Death By An Arrow · Sep 26, 2011, 05:54 PM // 17:54

My eyes... have been opened Konig. Cannot be unseen.

bonjela · Sep 26, 2011, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

I have always learned and grew up being told that commas, periods, and so forth belong within quotation marks (be they one or two dashes), and never outside... which I agree upon as when they are outside, it just looks plain wrong. So I simply ask: are you sure?

Hmm, I've just checked, and it seems we're both right: punctuation inside the quotes is correct American style, but I was using British style, which says that punctuation only goes inside the quotes if it's part of the original material or ends a sentence. Your way jumped out as looking really wrong to me because I'm used to the British style, heh. ^^

Death By An Arrow · Sep 27, 2011, 02:14 AM // 02:14

Well, now he doesn't look like a beetle anymore!

Really quite proud of where this has taken off from. Don't think I've been this excited for a drawing since my martha stewart project in art class two years ago D:

Does anyone see anything inherintly wrong with the composition/anatomy? I would like to correct that now before transferring it to the boards.

sidenote; i drew out a grid to try going closer to my original sketch, but I think I might leave it. reason one is time, as I will have absolute minimum time/energy very soon. I can work on this tomorrow and thursday night, then likely wont have the ability to work on it en masse until october 8th (you know... five days before the deadline :|..) I might have to paint in small sections at a time over the course of the week, but I'd prefer to cut out big chunks at a time. :3

second reason is I just really like the scale of this piece in comparison to if it was just MKT. :3

So yes; please try and see whats wrong that I could try and fix, so that (hopefully) tomorrow night i can get it one step closer to paint. ^^

Thistle Xandra · Sep 27, 2011, 06:09 AM // 06:09

eep! it's been a while since i've stopped by and there's so much to catch up on :O Just wanted to say YAY for the new participants and DOUBLE-YAY for familiar faces joining in the fun again

Quick mentions, sorry I can't get to everyone, but I need to go to bed soon D:

@ DBAA: hehe, I like the idea of ginormous MKT! I feel like the proportions are off, but I wasn't sure if that was intentional as artsy (example, the thighs are super thin, his left shoulder is huge, left forearm is comparably short).

@bonjela: I kinda agree that the lighting is off since the moon is in the back, for example, the front arch is lit as much as the back pillar on the right. Perhaps if you have a wider illumination range, it might make it look less off? For example, is 0 is black and 100 is white, you can have the super bright parts (direct reflection of the moon - shouldn't be many) at about 80, where the light bends around edges and curves as around 40-80, areas where the viewer directly faces (that front arch face) at about 40, and then the darker areas as 0-40. If that makes *any* sense. I'm super sleepy so sorry if it doesn't XD

Draken Burst · Sep 27, 2011, 08:57 AM // 08:57

Name: Draken Burst
Art Form: Confectionery
Idea: Mad King Thorn (carrot) Cake
Progress Gallery: http://dragongirl-lucky-13.deviantart.com/

Color balanced thanks to KiyaKoreena. <3

Real Life Prizes: [X] (tick this if you wish to compete for real-life prizes, if we have any - if you select this and we do have RL prizes, then you must be willing to provide your real address via email)
Official Contest: [X] (tick this if youre submitting your entry to the official contest at www.guildwars.com)
Workshop Awards: [X] (tick this if you want to compete for the workshop awards (you forfeit your chance to be a judge)

Name: Draken Burst
Art Form: Illustration
Idea: Ghosts VS Ghouls. A necromancer and ritualist having a haunting battle during Halloween. Done with black pen and colored pencils.
Progress Gallery: http://dragongirl-lucky-13.deviantart.com/

Real Life Prizes: [X] (tick this if you wish to compete for real-life prizes, if we have any - if you select this and we do have RL prizes, then you must be willing to provide your real address via email)
Official Contest: [_] (tick this if youre submitting your entry to the official contest at www.guildwars.com)
Workshop Awards: [X] (tick this if you want to compete for the workshop awards (you forfeit your chance to be a judge)

UnOrthOdOx · Sep 27, 2011, 11:45 AM // 11:45

Mmmm, carrot cake....

bonjela · Sep 27, 2011, 02:44 PM // 14:44

@Draken Burst: Hi there, nice entries! It looks like you've finished already, but I have a comment on the cake anyway: you've used household lightbulbs to illuminate the photos, which gives them a glaring yellow colour. I recommend adjusting the colours to something more neutral in photoshop, or re-taking the photos (if you haven't eaten the cake yet) using natural light from a window.

@Thistle Xandra: Thanks a lot for the feedback! I understand what you mean; perhaps I'll make a swatch and see if that helps me stick to a reasonable range.

@DBAA: Wow, that's a cool scene! I'm looking forward to seeing how you colour it.

Critique under the spoiler:

Konig Des Todes · Sep 27, 2011, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by Death By An Arrow

Well, now he doesn't look like a beetle anymore!

I still say that would of been more interesting and creative. :P

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Originally Posted by Death By An Arrow

Does anyone see anything inherintly wrong with the composition/anatomy? I would like to correct that now before transferring it to the boards.

His torso looks a bit short, though it may be perspective - his armor actually ends just above the ribcage, so there should be some spine showing.

satomz · Sep 27, 2011, 04:56 PM // 16:56

*peek* Oh dear, I think I am quite late for the party. I'm hoping I can still join?

Is there anyone making ToT bag full of goodies yet? If not, I'd like to call the idea as my own. If I finish the full set on time (if ever), I might actually submit it to the official contest.

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Forgot about the form...

Name: satomz
Art Form: decoration
Idea: miniature ToT bag-o-goodies
Progress Gallery: to be added once I actually start making things
Real Life Prizes: [_]
Official Contest: [x] (if I finish everything on time)
Workshop Awards: [x]

Eastern Magik · Sep 27, 2011, 05:14 PM // 17:14

waw, so many ppl here!! yaay!! just wanted to wish good luck to everyone, i already see a lot of winners from Nolani

Penguin oO · Sep 27, 2011, 05:38 PM // 17:38

I will post the pic entry soon

Name: Penguin
Art Form: Something Different
Idea: Sexy Miss Universe
Progress Gallery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoKg7...layer_embedded
Real Life Prizes: [X]
Official Contest: [X] Hells Yess!!
Workshop Awards: [X]

Widowmaker · Sep 27, 2011, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Stunning work as usual, Penguin.

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As for how to embed the video, last entry on this list.

Penguin oO · Sep 27, 2011, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Thanks you .. i wanted to make something different

Draken Burst · Sep 27, 2011, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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@Draken Burst: Hi there, nice entries! It looks like you've finished already, but I have a comment on the cake anyway: you've used household lightbulbs to illuminate the photos, which gives them a glaring yellow colour. I recommend adjusting the colours to something more neutral in photoshop, or re-taking the photos (if you haven't eaten the cake yet) using natural light from a window.

That was natural lighting, the cream-cheese topping dried and became very glossy/reflective. I'll see what I can do in photoshop but I actually did the shading with food coloring to add some contrast to it.

But yes, the cake has been devoured.

bonjela · Sep 27, 2011, 09:30 PM // 21:30

@Penguin: Whoa. O_O That's the coolest thing I've seen all week.

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Originally Posted by Draken Burst

That was natural lighting, the cream-cheese topping dried and became very glossy/reflective. I'll see what I can do in photoshop but I actually did the shading with food coloring to add some contrast to it.

But yes, the cake has been devoured.

Whoops, sorry, it looked so yellow to me that I assumed you'd used tungsten lightbulbs. ^^ The cake itself looks alright, tbh, (and delicious!) but the background is so yellow that a little blue to balance out the images wouldn't hurt.

Death By An Arrow · Sep 27, 2011, 09:41 PM // 21:41

@Thistle It was a little intentional, however not to the extent that bonjella pointed out (which I will need to fix :S). I was trying to do a perspective thing, where the side closer to us was larger (trying to make it feel closer), but this was before it was a scene and it would have just been himself.

@Konig The torso was shorter for the perspective, he was suppost to be leaning over slightly so the torso was to be minimally seen. The bones are actually there, between the belt and the line... I didnt know what to do with them without using colour to distinguish it wasnt armor. But it will (hopefully) be more obvious in colour.

@Bonjela Thank you for the detailed response

It really is helpful, especially the over-drawing. So ,generally, in order;

@Draken Those both look excellent! Good luck with the results

I really like the pencil crayon piece, was never good with that medium myself despite really liking pencil :/

@Penguin GUHHHHHH very nice. I have a friend who is obsessed with longboarding, and would kill to have a board like that. Personally prefer Miss Orr, but both are fantastic. The whole video I just kept thinking "Why the heck is he making a charr? I thought he was painting a woman. Wait, there it is again. Wait is that a spider? And now a pumpkin?! ... OOHHHH."

Tzu · Sep 27, 2011, 09:52 PM // 21:52

whaaaaaaaaaaaaat, Penguin that is SICK.

I had no idea what a "longboard" was, so I was just admiring your painting skills until the "second" board popped up and I started wondering what this was really about, then the final result appears and I was like AWESOME!!

The design is so cool, fantastic work on this one!!!

Minami · Sep 27, 2011, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Wow Penguin, that looks amazing... I am partial to Miss Orr, it was really neat to see how you paint. Very amusing and interesting!

I was thinking I might put together a photo manipulation kind of thing... I don't know yet.